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The day everything became nothing (music/politics)

There have been a couple of interesting articles in the Grauniad over the last couple of days concerning the upcoming war.


Jonathan Glover, a medical ethicist, writes here :

The weak answers given to these questions by the two governments proposing war explain why they have persuaded so few people in the rest of Europe, or even in this country. It is heartening how few are persuaded by claims about intelligence too secret to reveal, or by the attempts to hurry us into war by leaders who say their patience is exhausted. We would never agree to removing the baby's life support on the basis of medical information too confidential for the doctor to tell us. Still less would we accept this because the doctor's patience has run out. It really does seem that this time many of us are thinking about war with something like the same seriousness.

Many mentions here of Kant and Hobbes.

Jonathan Freedland writes here :

Even my prejudices draw me to the pro-war side. When I see Tony Blair alongside Jacques Chirac, I find myself drawn to Blair's brand of conviction politics - his willingness to defend an unpopular cause - rather than to Chirac's self-interested calculation which, you just know, will see France sink its nose into the Iraqi trough the instant there's a sniff of oil profits to be had.

So I should be a natural recruit to the pro-war camp. The trouble is, most of the pro-war arguments remain so painfully thin.


There's a bit in there on the history of US interventions. By nice coincidence a not-so-brief guide appeared on the_separatist today.

The point is also touched on in Paul Foot's article here.

Have they even mentioned the recent abrupt ending of democracy in Pakistan, and its relacement by a dictator there who has at his disposal weapons of mass destruction? Is he regarded in the White House as a dictator or an ally in the war against terrorism?

The ever-relevant Maggie O'Kane writes here concerning a couple of previous cases of "secret intelligence data". Probably a mistake to mention it last, as it's in some ways the most illuminating.

Heller's curiosity had been aroused in September [1990] when she read a report of a commercial satellite - the Soyuz Karta - orbiting and taking pictures over Kuwait. She wanted to see what the only independent pictures would make of the alleged massive build-up of Iraqi troops on the Kuwait/Saudi border. Soyuz Karta agreed to provide them. But no trace of the 265,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks that the US officials said were there could be found in the photographs.




I notice also that HM Govt have backed down on the use of Hyde Park. The Countryside Alliance have noted that they asked to use the park for their rally in December and got turned down for exactly the same reasons, so I guess we can now look forward to people saying that the anti-war demo's getting special favour from its friends in government.

I've picked up a couple of very good records over the last couple of days too. I finally took possession of the Linus 12" that swisstone got off andypop and that got left out at karmicnull's place for a fortnight. It's very good and I like it, especially the first track, "Don't Forget", which is very immediate. In another week or two I may have a different favourite, but it's that one at the moment. And in the post today was a copy of The Crimea's highly excellent "Lottery winners on acid", which I also expect to be listening to a lot for the next while. All well on the pop front.
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I notice also that HM Govt have backed down on the use of Hyde Park. The Countryside Alliance have noted that they asked to use the park for their rally in December and got turned down for exactly the same reasons, so I guess we can now look forward to people saying that the anti-war demo's getting special favour from its friends in government.
And that the war has more supporters so will be more difficult to distract attention from by talking about Cherie Blair's ovaries in the national press.
Going by the demos last year, the CA would have been expected to get at least as many people out.